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19, 19, 1967 (?)

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Posted by Paul

Obama, you is nuts.  This post is going to be very short and I’m sure David will put together a much more cogent post to follow-up on the President’s speech on Middle East policy.  Allow me to sum up my feelings with a map.

These borders are indefensible.

President Obama really expects Israel to negotiate back to these borders when one of the parties in the Palestinian unity government is a sworn enemy to the existence of a Jewish state?  Hamas’ rockets already reach 10 kilometers and that’s using fertilizer as a propellant…

And sorry for the Bowling for Soup reference in the title.

 

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  • David says:
    May 20, 2011 at 8:59 am
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    Indefensible is right. This is ridiculous. The is so much potential to the Arab Spring and President Obama has to get his eyes off directing hate toward Israel. Beyond that, calling for Israel to give up the Golan (c’mon, let’s be real, Israel supporter or not, Israel is not giving the Golan back to Bashar al Assad’s Syria) is ridiculous.

    If President Obama wants to be ‘the one’ who orchestrates a peace in the Middle East it’s going to happen by getting the two sides to the negotiating table with no pre-conditions and by getting the PA some political capital with its own people, not by promising Syria the biggest Israeli land concession (of many!) in Israeli history.

    This is classic double standard. When you have two children fighting, you tend to ask the more sane what to just let the other win to resolve the conflict. Israel is the democracy, Israel is our military partner, Israel is the state that needs the Golan to maintain its security (let alone qualitative military edge).

    U.S. policy should be to get the parties to the table, and let them resolve it. I’m going to assume (for my sanity and the sake of President Obama’s speech on Sunday) that the Golan is part of a mutually agreed upon swap. I don’t think many in the region actually believe Israel will (or at this point ought to) give up the Golan.

    This is retroactive for the peace process, bad for the Israelis, and poor American policy. I want a two state solution, but this is not the way to get it.

  • YJ Draiman says:
    August 24, 2011 at 1:37 pm
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    An interesting questionnaire for Palestinian Advocates

    If you are so sure “Palestine, the country, goes back through most of recorded history,” I expect you to be able to answer a basic questions about that country of Palestine:
    1. When was it founded and by whom?
    2. What were its borders?
    3. What was its capital?
    4. What were its major cities?
    5. What constituted the basis of its economy?
    6. What was its form of government?
    7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
    8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
    9. What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
    10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
    11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese Yuan on that date.
    12. And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
    You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation.
    Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of?

    ???? Do the Palestinian Arabs knot that their Koran states in The Qur’an 17:104 – states the land belongs to the Jewish people – “And thereafter we [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land.”

    Here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people that are mistakenly called “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over

  • YJ Draiman says:
    August 24, 2011 at 1:39 pm
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    End the Unjust Arab Occupation of Jewish Land

    NO PALESTINIAN STATE – No land concessions R8.

    The Palestinian Arabs have proven that land concession is detrimental to Israel, or any concession for that matter.

    Imagine that the various people who settled in the United States for the past 300 years decided one day that they one to parcel the United States into an independent State just for them, would the American public go for it. The Answer is absolutely NO.

    The situation in Israel today is no different. The Arabs there are not Palestinians, there is no such Arab nation as Palestine or Palestinian people.

    Europeans countries today are consisting of numerous people from other countries. Would the Europeans people cede part of their country to set up another State in their midst. The answer is absolutely NO.

    Archeological excavations and historical data is the best proof Israel belongs to the Jewish Nation and non-other.

    All the Arabs in Israel and surrounding areas are from the various Arab nations, such as Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and other Arab nations.

    Transfer all Arabs from Israel to Jewish Land and Homes confiscated by Arab Countries.

    Prominent PLO Arab says there are no ‘Palestinians’ and no “Palestine”

    PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein admitted in a March 31, 1977 interview with a Dutch newspaper Trouw.

    “The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism. ”

    The Qur’an 17:104 – states the land belongs to the Jewish people

    If the historic documents, comments written by eyewitnesses and declarations by the most authoritative Arab scholars are still not enough, let us quote the most important source for Muslim Arabs:
    “And thereafter we [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd’.”.
    017.104
    YUSUFALI: And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, “Dwell securely in the land (of promise)”: but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.
    PICKTHAL: And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.
    SHAKIR: And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment.
    - Qur’an 17:104 -
    Any sincere Muslim must recognize the Land they call “Palestine” as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by Muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah’s ultimate revelation.

    Any building of housing in The Greater Israel is the right and duty of the Israeli government. There is no such a thing as occupied territory. It is the land of Israel for over 4,000 years.

    Sequence of historical events, agreements and a non-broken series of treaties and resolutions, as laid out by the San Remo Resolution, the League of Nations and the United Nations, gives the Jewish People title to the city of Jerusalem and the rest of Israel totaling approximately 45,000 square miles, as mandated by the League of Nations in July of 1922. The process began at San Remo, Italy, when the four Principal Allied Powers of World War I – Great Britain, France, Italy and Japan – agreed to create a Jewish national home in what is now the Land of Israel. (You might as well break apart Syria which was mandated at the same time).

    YJ Draiman.

    PS
    20 Years of Research Reveals Jerusalem Belongs to Jews

    (IsraelNN.com) Jacques Gauthier, a non-Jewish Canadian lawyer who spent 20 years researching the legal status of Jerusalem, has concluded: “Jerusalem belongs to the Jews, by international law.”.

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